WTF HAPPENED TO PRIDE?

fatmanatee:

complicatedshoes:

muppetpants:

ohtrouble:

Seriously.  Since when did Americans want to be rescued?  Since when do they hold their hands out, happily taking whatever is given to them?

What she said.

American pride has been replaced with American guilt and American jealousy, where success is shameful and personal wealth a disgrace.

You’re supposed to feel bad for everything you ever achieved as long as there are people that have less than you.  Charity is not sufficent.  You must submit to the progressive tax code and be coerced into helping out the little guy.

More importantly, you must loathe all the people that have more than you.  It’s not enough to simply work hard to achieve what they have.  Oh no.  You have to belittle them.  You have to question how they achieved it.

Then you have to punish them.  They don’t deserve what they’ve achieved.  The little people do.  All the people they must have stepped on along the road to successs.  Those are the real heroes.  The American Dream is no longer that anyone can achieve anything.  The American Dream is now “You have what I want so you must be a total prick.  You’re going down!”  We’ve become a society that thrives on seeing the great among us fall.  The problem with that is before long, everyone’s on the bottom.

Capitalism breeds these sorts of emotions.  But nonetheless, you’re distorting the issue: the guilt and jealousy is reserved mostly for those who cheat or bully their way up.  There are tons of wealthy people who are given respect in this society.  You’re just focusing on the negative.

BTW, will you be voting libertarian this year?  That would appear to be the direction you’re heading in, and to be honest, I don’t understand why people who are crying “socialism” aren’t going in that direction as a large group.

 i’ve pretty much stayed out of this shit. because honestly, i dont have any interest in changing the minds of people i find not misinformed, but who grew up with horrible judgement skills. but this is gross. this whole conversation is gross. i’ve achieved quite a bit. i’m not guilty or sad about it because someone doesn’t have it. that doesn’t make me a kook who believes in only getting more having more and not helping others. oh fuck this is stupid. like i said, no use trying to defend yourself against groups who don’t listen.

10/30/2008
10:21